In Japan Theyll Ignore Rape if You Know the Person
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Michael Jackson
If she was unable to give consent or not then it'southward rape no matter what happened before that
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Yubaru
What is distressing is that many women themselves hither don't understand the problem, and because they don't know anyone who has experienced rape, or even understand what defines a rape, they find information technology easier to blame the victim than take a look at themselves and how they are adversely affecting the state of affairs through either their negative "victim bashing" comments or refusal to accept a new reality.
Men need to be ameliorate educated from a younger age about RESPECT!
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Maria
@Bungle. Yous are incorrect. Rape is not merely with a penis.
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thepersoniamnow
Very distressing that some treat others in this way. Y'all'd have to exist some kind of sociopath to be able to have pleasance from other people's misery.
Women practise need to stand up more for each other here like she says, although to say it'southward now a time to believe all accusers, that is also very much a flawed fashion to proceed as well. I think the reaction to #me too in other places has shown that as well.
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Maria
Same thing. If you lot strength someone to take sex, exist it physically or verbally, you have raped them.
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Toasted Heretic
Unfortunately, information technology'due south not only in Nihon nosotros need to worry about men's attitude to women, going by some of the comments here.
Varying from the offensive to the surreal.
Some men need to start seeing women every bit equal and not every bit bottom beings, someone to objectify. To cease sneering when they speak out. Just expect at the behaviour of some male commentators when victims of Roy Moore spoke out.
It's lamentable that victims cannot speak out without being judged and criticised. In Japan, or elsewhere.
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Garthgoyle
Know your identify, woman... Is what Japan has to say to yous. Where a public figure is found raping a woman tied to the bed, he confesses and the entire nations knows about it merely he (cough Yuta Takahata!) never sees a day in jail. Just coz his mama appears on tv bowing and gomen. Money had a big play, though.
Or another adult female is found having an affair with a married man and her entire career gets destroyed (at that moment) and him? Well, boys will be boys.
And yes, I'm being sarcastic.
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Reckless
She certainly has a lot of backbone to keep fighting.
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Yubaru
This is i of a plethora of bug facing women who are sexually driveling, and an fifty-fifty bigger problem is the police, medical facilities , prosecutors and full general public likewise.
One, at that place are not plenty police trained to deal with victims of rape, 2, they don't commonly do rape kits at hospitals either (telling women to have a shower, clean-up, and they volition somehow "feel better") . Three, prosecutors and cops too, when investigating, IF they investigate, ask insensitive and meaningless questions, to somehow protect the guy (or may girl) who committed the rape.
Also the public'south image of "rape" is express to what they see on TV or movies, and fail to realize that it is a serious problem here in Japan.
The victims are the problem, until they can prove otherwise and not the other way around. Saying "no" does not hateful "no" way of thinking!
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Michael Jackson
Of course they were this is Japan
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smithinjapan
Cleo: "Comparison of rape rates in different countries:"
The comparison is not really a valid statistic to go past. Remember, the whole point of the article is that information technology's a risky business organisation to pursue charges or fifty-fifty claim sexual assail when it occurs in Japan because police will curve over backwards in many cases to ignore information technology, fifty-fifty discrediting the adult female based on by sexual history, etc.
And then, the cases of rape yous cite are only REPORTED cases, and I reckon the number of unreported cases in Japan supercedes those of the other countries you mention (perchance not Leichtenstein) by x-fold at to the lowest degree. I wish it were non the case, and I retrieve it's something that defintiely needs improvement, only we are talking about a nation where chikan can actively online brag about how yearly center tests and exams are coming up as the perfect date to "grope girls on trains" because society won't allow them to be tardily for the test or they'll automatically forfeit, so they cannot report information technology.
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Toasted Heretic
Victim blaming once more. No wonder the women whoa have been assaulted are afraid to come up forward.
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browny1
A difficult uphill battle for women here who want to expose the "hidden" rape scene here.
Shiori Ito'south case is disturbing. Her story, supported by witness accounts and cctv on her "drugged like" conditions was essentially dismissed by relevant government. After much pushing over weeks a example was finally presented to prosecutors and an arrest warrant was issued for the defendant Noriyuki Yamaguchi. Mysteriously as officers moved to arrest him at Narita (he was fleeing), a call from "College Upward" told them to back off.
Why?
Well the call came from slimy Nakamura, chief of the National Police - a bureaucrat with no policing powers - who surprise, surprise happens to be a close buddy of no other than Abe of Abe Inc.
And who is Yamaguchi, the defendant - well surprise, surprise he just happens to be a very close buddy of Abe and has written 2 flattering autobiographies nearly him.
Well - who'da guessed?
And where'southward the fury? Where'southward the voice? Where's the media? Where's the justice?
Silence of the Lambs.
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Yubaru
Obviously there are folks even here on this site that do non know what constitutes "rape" or "sexual assail",
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape
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RiskyMosaic
Stocktrader
From the article;
And then, well-nigh that reality bank check...
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Cricky
I am actually shocked at some of the comments here, Rape being workplace or off the street is a disasterous thing to happen to anyone. The flippet attitude by the Legal (almost vomited calling it a Legal system) system is a dark-green light for rapists. Gang rape a girl....sentence???. Rape a hotel worker, his MUM says sorry about that, no charge. It's no wonder that sexual activity crimes are and then prevalent when the victims are subjected to a series of degrading interviews designed not to assist but make information technology then bad the accuse is dropped. Medieval. Inquisition type legal process.
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Geoff Gillespie
@ Alex Einz
Until recently, there have been very few real child pornography laws on the Japanese statute books. Likewise, many, many cases of rape get unreported in Japan. So, there are just two examples of how your 'rubber' Japan is probably non the country you think it is. I am afraid you may be a little naïve in this regard...
Regarding this particular topic, though, ask yourself this question. Where are all the Japanese feminists...?
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Kiwi in Okinawa
@Boggle (And strangerland kind of beat out me to answer)
Persuading someone to have sex with you lot while acting in bad faith may be morally questionable, but it isn't necessarily rape.
There is a big divergence between persurading (Which if non freely agreed and so really to persuade, would equate into pressuring) and forcing by use of employement of status power would be rape. Expect at the Weinstein issue, he abused power to get women who would non take freely washed things with him. He may have idea he was persuading them, but actually he was if not directly physically forcing himself on them, he was using his ability as the same concrete force.
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kohakuebisu
Ha-chu wrote that her dominate at Dentsu would call her at midnight and look her to encounter him in a bar. During work he would say things like "I don't commonly go with flat-chested women, but I'll brand an exception for you". He sounds similar full scum.
Gender relations every bit a whole are completely screwed in Nippon. I've said it before but I experience ambitious women are held by other women also as by men. That nucleus of happyhoped-for-kept women see them as a threat and are ambivalent to any barriers working women face. This means that women do non act as a unified group pushing for better handling as in other countries. There is besides the gender-unrelated problem of victims of bullying being seen as responsible for their fate. There are plenty of stories of this happening in schools. Add together in the quondam-fashioned "abused women=damaged goods" attitude that lets chikan get away with then much and it's no wonder #metoo isn't getting much traction.
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UK9393
The ignorance about how Japanese society views, processes and deals with rape as a crime is astounding by some posters, specially those who regularly enthuse as to how long they have lived here, and how much 'insight' they supposedly take. KY doesn't fifty-fifty come into it. This commodity -- linked below -- is a actually good starting betoken as to how, for one, rape -- until merely very recently -- could only exist prosecuted when the police force received a complaint from a victim.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/does-japan-ever-convict-men-for-rape
These women are those nails sticking out with a whole society ready to hammer them downwardly -- every bit usual -- I wish them strength, endurance and success. NO More than RAPE.
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Disillusioned
Hmmm, how does one change a leopard'due south spots? Japanese men's immoral mental attitude towards women and teenage girls is deeply seated in Japanese history and civilisation. The advent of the internet only made it worse. Yes, some men are slowly changing, but he majority are non. Women are and e'er have been second class citizens in Japan. It'south less than 200 years agone that they allowed women to go to school. And, information technology'southward less than xxx years ago that women were allowed into the constabulary force.
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Luddite
The trolling of those speaking almost harrassment and assault is happening everywhere.
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Goodlucktoyou
! They still refer to raped victims of state of war every bit comfort women. And then for especially the older generation women are seen as just second class objects for their frustration. This mindset seems to have been passed downward from generation to generation of men in Japan
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kohakuebisu
By the mode, #metoo is about sexual harassment as well as diverse forms of sexual assault including rape.
So information technology is wrong to focus on rape or on the precision definition of rape as in many of the comments above. Rape is already a criminal act that is handled with considerable importance in the countries where #metoo evolved. #metoo is intended to highlight how widespread sexual harassment is. It is not limited to women who've been raped.
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Cricky
Medieval justice, medieval results. Police are inept, or incompetent. Prosecutors unwilling to accuse, Judges unwilling to sentence a "visitor boss", "TV personality", the "rich". Victims are to blame...Medieval.
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Kobe White Bar Possessor
"The study found that i in 15 Japanese women had been raped or forced to have sex."
A disgusting number and i of the main reasons why i question raising my daughter here.
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YongYang
@Hartwell et al: Vocalization that opinion to the women in your life, friends, mother, married woman/girlfriend. I dare you.
Women, -- some 'men' seem to need to realise -- are PEOPLE. Remember that. Treat them as such, not as objects, second class citizens who take no right to stand every bit equals. Teach boys that girls are not inferior, weaker, less able because IT IS Non TRUE. Those on here who think otherwise, your time is up.
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Akie
Let us say "me not" to Japanese men.
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Emily Bishop
I remember that a friend of ours was almost raped in the park when we lived in Japan. She managed to escape and run away. She is half Japanese and grew up in united states of america and was living with her Japanese grandmother. She went to the constabulary station and tried to report it. The police told her how she would bring trouble for her grandmother if she filed a written report and persuaded her non to. Who knows if anyone lifted a finger to catch the guy abd what he went on to exercise. A Japanese friend of a friend also apparently dropped out of university because a guy touched her on the train every day. Fifty-fifty if she changed the fourth dimension of the railroad train he was still there. She never reported this or spoke upwards in the railroad train. What I'm trying to say is that there is a strong culture of not reporting sexual crimes in Japan.
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YongYang
Different you cleo I read something that another poster linked and learnt something:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/does-japan-ever-convict-men-for-rape
According to Ministry of Justice (There's an oxymoron) studies, merely eighteen.v percent of sexual assaults were reported in a recorded v year menstruation and And so there's the patriarchal depths to navigate. Finish defending, rationalising, the indefensible.
No lies, just facts.
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thepersoniamnow
In Japanese companies a lot of the harassment and bullying that women experience too comes from other women. They can be pretty cutting throat and put the pressure on regarding maternity leave etc.
I am surprised that more women hither practice not take an active and song stance against harassment, groping, etc.
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Strangerland
Never heard of coercion?
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RowanM
@Cleo
Second sentence on the folio. Huge difference and completely relevant especially considering the article is about how society pressures women in Japan non to mutter or go to the police.
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MrBum
Perchance not worse... but at the very least dissimilar. And probably more accustomed every bit "shoganai." I've had Japanese female friends joke that a #metoo movement hither would have catastrophic bear upon on their economy.
Coming from someone that fully supports #metoo, those are all valid questions. The whole signal of the movement is empowerment, and that means clearly communicating what you lot want or don't want. Blaming a guy for not reading your listen and potentially ruining his career is going to garner backlash, and rightfully then in my stance. Calling people who ask valid questions "icky" doesn't help the cause either. We need to exist able to speak honestly and approximate different cases by their specific context.
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runner3
Cleo your postal service makes no sense if Japanese women don't study a rape. So if things are going to change in Japan men have to start respecting women and victims of rape have to report it!
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Wallace Fred
Cruel beyond words
Explains aloooot
Police required her to recount the ordeal repeatedly and to demonstrate information technology with a life-sized doll, she said.
How isn't this reported to the human rights commission?
Many online comments criticized her for speaking out, looking too seductive and ruining the life of a prominent figure.
Yep let's blame the victim. What sick bizzaro culture!!!
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Reckless
Whenever the condition quo changes there volition be collateral damage, merely I think we are heading in the right direction to acknowledge these women (and men) and give them a voice.
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bosphorus
It's non only rape, at that place are lots of stalkers and perverts here in Nippon. Foreign women often become targets.
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zichi
A number of loftier placed women take likewise spoken out against the #MeToo, like
Germaine Greer, #MeToo campaign: Women must act, requite upward on ...
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/greers-controversial-gripe-with-metoo-campaign/news-story/5162a05a372e44a6754b46b385e6a289
Jan 21, 2018 - I have seen the constabulary working up arape case trying desperately difficult to build it upwards so information technology will stand up up in court — and wasting their time. "The burden of proof is too high and that's because the tariff is too onerous.Rape is a dailycrime, information technology'snot spectacular. What we need is a coherent law of sexual set on.".
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Alexandre T. Ishii
The #MeToo movement is doing a right thing. The online comments accusing this movement are probably based by biased male chauvinists ( not to say only in Japan). The lawsuits made by the victims need more than professionals to accept more proof /evidences, at least a lawyer and a private detective on the victim side.
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gaijintraveller
Somewhere I take a photo I took years ago of a sign in front of a store in Center Gai in Shibuya near McDonald's. It was ad products sold in the shop, which sold drug paraphernalia and what were legal highs at the time. Nearly all the sign was in Japanese, simply one product was listed in English and it shocked me even though I am not easily shocked. As I cannot read Japanese, my eyes zoomed in on the English. The store was selling and openly advertising a date-rape drug. That is why I was so shocked.
When I lived in Yokohama, I was warned by a friend, who was a counsellor, that there was a dangerous human living in the area, and that I should warn whatever ladies visiting my house. How did she know? Ane of her patients, a immature girl, lived not far from me. She had been attacked on her way home, which is why she needed counselling. I was as well told that her parents would not contact the constabulary near the incident for fright of their daughter becoming "kizuna".
No, Tokyo is not the safest metropolis in the earth, at to the lowest degree not for women. Ask a woman yous know if she would walk through say Hibiya Park lonely afterward midnight. Actually, when I visited Shanghai a few years ago, ii friends of mine living at that place, who had previously lived in Tokyo, said it was an extremely safe city, safer than Tokyo. One explained this by saying at 2 a.m. y'all often see girls walking in the street listening to headphone, and you will never run into that in Tokyo because in Tokyo at that time of night girls are listening for footseps following them.
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goldorak
Could/would take been an interesting thread if the "japan sucks/my country's much better than japan" brigade hadn't hijacked it. The number of down-votes on cleo'due south factual numbers says it all.
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clamenza
not nigh as much as Japanese women, I'd wager.
But where the women come from is non the issue
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clamenza
Cleo - do you have statistics which evidence the ease with which women written report rape in Japan vs the W?
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clamenza
Gaijintraveller - I'm pretty sure "Kizuna" is not the discussion yous're looking for here
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DickTaterTots
"Saying 'Me Too' in Japan carries risk of beingness criticized, ignored"
Remove "in Japan" from here and the statement yet runs truthful. You lot outta see the levels of harassment that women who come up forward must face all around the globe. It's agonizing. Japan is no exception, but it's definitely non worse than in nigh other places...however fifty-fifty though I say this, that is still setting the bar Actually low considering information technology's a terrible problem around the world and humanity as a whole is failing to properly address the abhorrent backfire and harassment that many women who speak out face online.
MeToo in the West brings attending to abusive men in power but it sadly still leaves victims at hazard of farthermost forms of bullying and harassment and it shouldn't be this manner. It's been an middle-opening movement but some people wait foaming at the mouth trying to ignominy women who come forward. But await at how disgusting people acted virtually the woman who told her story of how Aziz Ansari treated her...."why didn't she only leave?" "this doesn't count as #metoo because they didn't work together" "she wasn't forced into anything, why did she comply with his demands if she didn't want it?" And some people even accuse others who come forwards of using #metoo of just looking for attention or social media followers. Merely information technology gets fifty-fifty more farthermost, I know a few women in America who take been doxxed afterward coming forward, I'm talking full personal info and family info shared online among internet trolls, some people went as far as to phone call their workplaces or clients to try to make them lose their jobs/work.
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Christina Tsuchida
Lest yous conclude hastily that "Nihon is astern," let me explain that equally of the 1970s, the USA treatment of women who reported rape (by police or hospitals) was reported to us as every bit bad. I practice not have upwards-to-date info on whether that has improved. Call up that even salaries for females in the U.s.a. remain less on average than men's. I am non sure information technology is better there.
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Mocheake
^Don't blame all men.
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UK9393
@Girl in Tokyo: Wish I'd bee on hand to aid out. Take care out at that place, hopefully i mean solar day it won't exist every bit you and millions of women experience everyday.
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Kobe White Bar Owner
@Miguel Lozano
"Saying 'Me Too' in Nihon carries risk of beingness criticized, ignored" It is the same in Mexico
Yup, shame based civilization vs guilt based.
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macv
I am starting a similar campaign for all the foreigners (and Japanese) who take been victimized past the Japanese police prosecutors judges who consistently fail to follow up, neglect to implement due procedure, prevarication in reports, browbeat rape victims to not file charges, destroy evidence, are basically unaccountable and above the police force. It's high fourth dimension all of this injustice was exposed internationally. Blame them and shame them.
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AgentX
Victim blaming is a national sport here... and it's amazing how quickly the grouping will sideslip into that mode of thinking when someone speaks up about anything, even if it'south sexual assault.
It'due south simply a fact of life here, and it won't be changing anytime soon. TIJ.
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Matt Hartwell
LOL. Wow. Are you serious? Yous're more than Cathay paranoid than I am. Did non think that was possible lol.
The #metoo movement is a event of Hollywood excess and the extremely toxic culture that has existed in Hollywood since the gold historic period. Its that, combined with the modern day make of feminism coming out of Western media and universities. A make of feminism which seems inclined to label all males as potential sex predators and as you lot correctly state has the potential to be damaging to male-female relations imo. Even more than damaging to female employment I would contend.
At that place is a nascent #metoo move in China so I've read. At that place have been cases of male university lecturers existence fired for sexual harassment recently which is entirely reasonable if true.
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Sevenseas
I idea #metoo was a good style to have women's voices heard, and to shine a low-cal on the corporeality of harassment. I do recall it began to become a little too far though, because those accused had very piffling right of reply.
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clamenza
Permit's look at information technology indeed. Although I am no fan of Ansari, who is simply another liberal virtue-signaller, the adult female in question wrote a blog nigh an evening they had together.
They had, by her own access, consensual sex where he offered to finish if she was uncomfortable. She raised no objection and they proceeded. Next day she writes in her weblog that she "wished" she had been more resistant and "felt" that at times he seemed "aggressive".
Despite giving him every sign possible that sex was ok, she however blogged virtually regret. And so tried to destroy his career by making information technology public.
information technology is women similar her who exercise a disservice to actual victims.
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Andrew Well-baked
Spot on annotate
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inkjet
I get and then fed up with life in America sometimes. I start thinking about moving back to Japan then I'm reminded, men screw things upwards everywhere.
Hey men, unless we are part of the solution we are office of the problem.
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lostrune2
At that place'south a stigma for being a sexual assail survivor in Japan, whereas in the west, it's considered a bluecoat of courage for having survived and overcome the attack
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Miguel Lozano
"Saying 'Me Also' in Japan carries risk of being criticized, ignored" It is the same in United mexican states
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girl_in_tokyo
Women oftentimes talk nearly their experiences of sexual assault with their girlfriends. Over the years I have heard many horrific stories that took identify in Tokyo, and I have had several bad experiences of my own. I take been yelled at, followed, stared at, groped, grabbed, rubbed on, had my skirt pulled up, masturbated at, had pictures taken downward my shirt and up my skirt, and more than one time men on the train have gotten close in order to whisper lewdly in my ear. Wow, that list is long. Writing it out like that actually demonstrates exactly what it is like to alive as a woman in Japan.
And before anyone asks, yes - I take been to the police on several occasions, both past myself and accompanying a friend who was assaulted. The starting time fourth dimension I reported an assault was when a homo in Kabukicho who was handing out fliers, offered my friend and I a flier and so groped us. Another time I went to the constabulary when I was being stalked though emails and phone calls by an ex.
In the first case, the police force just told us to go home, considering "Kabukicho is dangerous and you girls shouldn't be out then late at nighttime." Nosotros were over 30, and information technology was around 10pm. He wouldn't have a report, come with u.s.a. to where the guy had been passing out fliers, and acted in a very paternalistic and condescending mode. The second time I went to the constabulary was fifty-fifty worse, because the officeholder refused to believe me. He got angry, and really threw his pen on the tabular array and declared "shinjirarenai!". I had a Japanese guy friend with me, and he was utterly shocked at how the police force treated me.
Since then I haven't seen any point in reporting all the footling harassments that are so common, because what would the bespeak exist? The police won't have a report because then they'd have to investigate; and they don't want to practise that considering they know the is merely a very slim chance of getting an arrest. They just don't see those things as important enough to pursue, and they don't want their crime stats going up.
Personally, I call up the police actually but don't intendance very much because they don't see those assaults every bit beingness all that harmful. But when you lot are subjected to such treatment on a semi-regular ground for 24 years, it effects you very deeply. That'due south why I become and so angry reading the comments from men who endeavor to downplay this trouble or who insist that it's not all men. Of course it's non all men - this is something women are completely aware of, and we don't demand to be told that. However, when y'all are out alone at 10pm and a man is walking behind you, you have no idea of what he might do. And if your by experience tells y'all that y'all could exist in danger, you are non going to ignore that instinct.
Men should walk with care when making comments on sexual set on. Unless you yourself have been assulted (as many men have) then you can't possibly empathise fully the way it effects you; therefore, your comments on what women could practise better, how women should bear after, criticisim about non reporting attack to the constabulary, and victim blaming are Not WELCOME. Not only that, you are also outing yourself equally a man that women should probably avoid existence solitary with. Because if you can't muster sympathy and understanding for women who have been sexually assaulted, and so nosotros know y'all are probable to exist a person capable of such assaults.
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Strangerland
Yeah, that case looked a lot more like a scam pulled past the woman and an 'anti-societal' member, than it did a rape.
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Sevenseas
Oh delight, guys. Tell us the deviation betwixt force, coersion and persuasion. Nosotros defer to your superior knowledge about the bureau women have over their ain bodies.
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Moderator
That won't be necessary. All readers, delight discuss what is in the story and don't become bogged downwardly in semantics.
Spectrum
Concord that Japan is far also backward to exercise anything nigh widespread sexual assault and rape. If Japan were more like the West, sexual crimes and rape would almost disappear, but this will never happen hither due to existence too backward.. SMH
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DaDude
Many women nowadays are able to lash out at and strike fear in their husbands. I wish that these victims were able to do the same to their attackers.
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Matt Hartwell
My married woman is fully aware of my opinion. She just thinks women deserve respect but that they also need to utilise the rational side of their brain a flake more. She is quite traditional in her views of male/female relationships I guess. She does not hail from a Western land so she does not really empathise the focus on this upshot.
Where did I say women should be disrespected? I said men that rape or sexually harass should go through the legal process and if guilty confront the full extent of punishment nether the constabulary. That'south what nosotros practice in countries that "maintain the rule of police force". We do not exercise witch hunts, online character assassinations and alike.
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nandakandamanda
One way that women in Japan traditionally control their men backside the scenes is to allow them to act selfishly, ie equally big babies, letting the men drink and speak freely and philosophize and think that they are in control, when the reality is quite dissimilar.
A woman like Rika Shiiki above who takes a western approach to an age-sometime problem hither, tin can be seen as a boat-rocker and threat not only to such self-centered men but also to the controlling women behind them. At that place are many other cultures around the earth with like underlying structures. Seen in this lite, information technology takes a brave or foolish woman to have faith in the legal organisation and stand up up and endeavor to address the problem.
Perhaps a more hole-and-corner and long-mitt approach might have worked better.
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Boggle
Run across
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clamenza
Compulsion is the threat of force.
Persuasion is a man having game.
non in the same ballpark.
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Vernon Watts
This women needs to learn how to behave herself in a more than business organisation-similar fashion. She should have walked away from whatever business deal that had a hint of sexual impropriety. I assemble she was doing concern with modest companies; I worked for a Japanese electronics company for thirty years and they had incredibly strict rules when it came to negotiating contracts or business with exterior vendors.
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Luddite
Utter tosh. Information technology'due south very much an issue where victims are stigmatised and ridiculed. It'southward why, in the U.k., victims of sexual crimes have the right to anonymity.
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clamenza
In that location is a big difference between the disasterous #metoo motility in Northward America and what Ms Ito needs to happen in Japan.
The North American motility was soon hijacked and made useless by attending seekers, human being-haters and the lunatic left.
Japan, however really does lack a support system for women who desire to come up forward.
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macv
and how news media and FCCJ only publicize the victimization of pretty ladies
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Wallace Fred
For the downwards voting weeaboo, practise yous support this grotesque treatment of women in Nippon? For the love of all things honest, what volition information technology take to remove those blinders?
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cleo
Why? Because you lot read about a few rapes that were non reported to the police and assumed that meant every Japanese human was out to become as much as he could, by fair means or foul, and every Japanese female is a victim?
We meet it hither on JT every day; any mention of 'Japan the prophylactic country' inevitably brings up posts pointing to a single tearing act/murder, telling us It's All Over The News! Arggh, That Proves Information technology, Nihon Isn't Prophylactic!
Are you lot seriously suggesting that 1324 out of every 100,000 Japanese women (tenfold on South Africa) accept been raped? On what ground? You know a couple of debauchee? You read most some rapists getting off scot free?
Interesting point. It seems that in Sweden, each human action of sexual violence is counted as a divide incidence. So for instance, if someone says they were raped by a partner every solar day for a fortnight, officers will record 14 potential crimes. In other countries the claim could be logged as a unmarried incident.
https://world wide web.thelocal.se/20170221/why-sweden-is-not-the-rape-capital-of-the-world
A case, I think, of lies, damn lies, and statistics?
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clamenza
Also interesting in Cleo's stat;
Sweden has the 6th worst charge per unit of rape.
SWEDEN!
now why would that be!?
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cleo
Comparison of rape rates in different countries:
Leichtenstein 0 (#119).
Nihon 1 per 100,000 (#105)
Canada one.7 per 100,000 (#97)
Russia 3.4 per 100,000 (#73)
Eu (average) 10,19 per 100,000
New Zealand 25.7 per 100,000 (#16)
US 27.3 per 100,000 (#fourteen)
Australia 28.half dozen per 100,000 (#11)
Southward Arica 132.4 per 100,000 (#1)
Maybe you need to move to Leichtenstein.
http://www.nationmaster.com/land-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate#corporeality
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clamenza
...not to mention meaning resistance from police and government in even assuasive it.
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clamenza
It'southward like someone chewed, them swallowed 4 different newspaper manufactures....
then coughed....
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Matt Hartwell
Good. Its a witch chase.
In maxim that women should not have to put up with sexual harassment and their complaints should be taken seriously and activity taken co-ordinate to constabulary. That'south why we have the law and not online and offline lynch mobs similar they have now in the U.Due south.
Practise not import this disastrous element of modern U.Due south and European civilization to Japan.
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Alex Einz
yes, maybe medieval only detect how club is super safe and advanced? or do you have improve example of a safe achieving society ?California? Skid row? Silicon valley?
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stocktrader
I can't understand why anyone would thumbs down the truth most this metoo thing.
Of course there is social issues that need to exist addressed. But by thumbs downing the truth, that China is actually instigating a war and preparing for a global takeover, you are saying you adopt China to dictate the rules of social social club.
China = #MeToo
For the honey of God, throw away your smartphones!
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Bungle
Nope. To qualify as rape, there must be a) penetration with a penis, and b) a lack of consent.
Persuading someone to have sex with you lot while acting in bad faith may be morally questionable, only it isn't necessarily rape.
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